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04:27
Alright, the cat P.F. made it to the space. And also John John made it to the space. That should be interesting. You guys are welcome to hop on in any time, but I figured since I've been doing a lot of power research and discovering a lot of cool things and learning a lot of cool things, would be a good way to put you guys on a game, especially since-
04:56
There's a little bit of a hype cycle currently going on. I figured that the best thing I could do, especially as a solo creator myself, is to put y'all in the game as to the do's and don'ts of, you know, how to take advantage of it. Cause been there before, been here, done that. Y'all know me by now. I'm a zero bullshit kind of guy. I don't use titles lightly. And I'm talking about legit.
05:34
How you doing, man? And thanks, sir, for popping by. Oh, yeah, no problem. You had to ask me anything, and I definitely have some questions to ask you. So you let me know when you're ready for that portion of the content. Yeah, no, I'm very much ready right now, so shoot. Okay, so for a solo creator, let's say you believe you have a lot of talent that you bring to the field, and your confidence comes from that. I actually was a solo creator for about 10 years.
06:04
And I was averaging between 10 to 15,000, but I've even had months where I've made 20 to 35,000 as a solo creator. But how I was doing it is I had my own space. So I had a little infrastructure, I had two offices. That way I always had an office in my travel. But I was also buying a lot of whitelists. And what that did was it gave me just a lot of content to work with, to help attract people to do business with.
06:33
But I had a falling out with the person selling the white lists. And I was getting, I was purchasing, you know, between 150 and 300 white lists the month, you know, to have ample opportunities to people to talk with. So now I'm starting all over at zero. And I just wanted to know if somebody started again from zero, you know, trying to get up to $5,000. Um, what advice would you give somebody that's at zero that's looking to, you know, get their first dollar in a new vertical?
07:03
Yeah, that's actually a very good way to start this. So to be honest, everything I'm about to say, it's not financial advice, it's strategic advice, first of all. Because I feel like that's why a lot of people get wrong. They overemphasize the outcome of how much they're supposed to get, and not so much how they're supposed to get there to begin with. I've said this before, and I'll say it again, man. A man is only as powerful as their systems. So if your systems are
07:31
brittle and you're not really equipped to you know find leads, follow-ups, funnel, you know the whole shebang. Forget about it, you're not really gonna go nowhere. So first of all I think it's important to touch on the fact that the Web3 AI space right now, especially since we've known that um let's say circa 2018 to you know 2021 that ballpark
08:00
Um, that space was very much about the FOMO. It was very much about learning to capitalize on people's attention in the moment so that if you had something interesting going on, if you had something quote unquote groundbreaking, that would be the way for you to kind of get attraction there and it was fairly easy to do back then because, you know, all of this was new. But now since, um,
08:26
A lot of more people are savvy about what's going on and about what these tools are capable of The first thing that I would personally do in a climate like that off the bat is to consider. Okay What what exactly am I offering here? Like in this landscape? Am I an artist? Am I a writer? Am I a video creator Assessing that off the bat will generally improve the quality
08:54
of what it is you're hoping to provide because at that point you're not just shooting in the dark. And believe it or not, you know, everyone is looking for something. It could be a ghostwriter, it could be, you know, editing services, it could even be commissions, or it could generally be like a collaborator in a space. I've seen people quite literally get paid from ghost opportunities. So it's all going to come down to, you know...
09:22
first of all how willing you are to put yourself out there and reach out to people and the cold DM leads that people like to talk shit about that's the one that got me the 90% of my results and i'll give you a quick context so that was uh let's say 2021 more or less i ran into this creator a photographer specifically in the web free space at the time
09:51
during the bull run and they were talking about their interest in exploring the blockchain and figuring out what chain they should probably man-ton. So I reached out and I said, hey, I'm a solo creator in the space. I'm very savvy about Ethereum, very savvy about Tezo, Solana and the likes. If you'd like to learn some more about it, please reach out. That was literally it. No nonsense. Hey, I'm insert.
10:21
quote-unquote big swinging dick person in the space and I know all this stuff he was just hey This is what I know This is what I've heard you say if you care to learn more reach out and they did and That same person has gone on to secure other consulting opportunities not only for me with other clients But they actually provided me With an opportunity to do on-site work at a studio, which I do still to this day. So
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All of this to say that what makes or breaks a creator in this day and age is their willingness to put themselves out there and to quite literally spark the opportunity by reaching out first. No one is ever going to reach out to you unless they really, really need it. Now you were talking about that you did a lot of DMs in 2021. Did you have an overall...
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DM strategy or each DM was like its own strategy? It's definitely personalized. I wouldn't recommend, because I know we live in the age of AI now, what I've noticed a lot of people do is that they'll use these automated bullshit DMs. Trust me, man, even the uninitiated can tell what's automated, right? Hey, thanks for following me. Welcome to, no, no one cares. What you need to do is to again.
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going off of you know what I said earlier in terms of your your skill set and what you have to provide cater that to the person in question if you're gonna reach out to a video editor I'm sure you would lead with a different opening statements than you would if you were to reach out to say a financier of some kind right so it's all about awareness and funny funny story too
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not only on the topic, a lot of the cold reach outs that I end up doing actually start out on the very timeline and I'll give you a very simple example. Most recently, this is more podcast related, not so much gig related, but it definitely serves as evidence of the point I'm trying to make here. I reached out to this creator with 12,000 followers on here.
12:43
and their bio states that they are building art installations in rural Japan. And as someone who, you know, focuses on the intersection of arts, culture, and technology, I figured, hey, this is the kind of person I would want to have on my podcast, but they don't follow me and I don't follow them. How do I make the connection happen? Well, they posted a tweet where they essentially talked about, uh,
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their discontentment with the current state of things and hustle culture. And all I did was show up and say, hey, this was a pretty interesting thread. I would like for you to swing by my podcast to flesh out these thoughts. You welcome any time. Everything expressed in this thread covers my annoyance with how hustle culture impacts arts and culture.
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and I'm attempting to draw attention to that, to actually what actually matters and that's the people. And they responded by saying, yeah, it's a true tragedy, down to Jim sometime, shoot me a message and we'll figure it out. See how easy that was?
13:56
Now, a lot of these questions have, how you got the collaboration. But once the collaboration occurs, how do you turn good content into, you know, I can make a living off of this and I don't have to basically work for somebody else? That's a good question. So the content stuff, I feel like a lot of people, again, get wrong, you know?
14:26
They put also there's a hunking in the bank. Okay, finally it's ended But yeah for context by the way the the tweeting question that I mentioned earlier It's currently pinned on the jumbotron so you can take a look at it and read along at the Fed but To go back to your initial question. I'm personally of the stance that you don't You can literally monetize your account with zero followers. I'm not joking because I've done the exact same thing People I think one people
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So much in emphasis on this idea that oh my god, I need to monetize at 10,000 or 20,000, you know, however many fucking number that's not the case at all What you need to do is to provide a an evidence of some kind that you say That you are will you say you are first of all and then that you know what you say, you know second of all and that's where Publishing newsletters came in for me and essentially building that library in public
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As some of you may know by now, I'm a very prolific publisher on both medium and substack. And substack particularly for me came in clutch because this is a platform that also does audio. So as some of you may know, I use spaces quite a bit as a marketing tool, as a way to sort of advertise what I know and what I'm capable of. So I'd show up in someone's space and drop a bomb on them.
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and I leave and do that over and over again. So as I did that, I would build a reputation of like the guy that asked the tough questions or the guy that says the crazy things that really makes you think, oh my God, like, why does he learn that stuff? And I always will say, hey, if you want to learn more, go to my sub stack, that's literally it. And I'll take those same clips from those same spaces and then put them up there and...
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do that over and over again. So when it comes to doing that with content specifically, it's the same principle. It's understanding that it's not about what you create in the moment. It's definitely not even about how long the content is. It's about harnessing the reaction of the people that are listening to said content or watching it if it's like a video and then using that as evidence that, hey, if you can make that impression on someone.
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then that means you can make that same impression at scale, regardless of follow or count. Because the one thing that holds true, and that's something that I've learned doing special comedy standups as a practice run, when you do crowd work and you know how to make a crowd laugh or get a reaction out of the crowd, what that means effectively is that you can get that reaction out of anyone in any situations.
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because it could be in a subway, it could be in a bar, it could be in a hotel room, I don't care where it is. It's all down to getting people comfortable to that degree where they can react how they would react in front of you. So for me, it's definitely a thing where I ensure that I want people to be in this mind space of knowing who I am, what I do, and as quickly as of timely fashion as possible, so that by the time they already know what I'm.
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capable of, they can then react in real time to what it is I have to offer in terms of insights, which is why it was interesting when last time we had a chat about this on a previous space and you said that I'm basically an open source consultant. Yeah, that's basically it. Except that I make it very specific to provide advice on things that I know for a fact people are saying with their own voice that they struggle with.
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I would say, hey, have you considered that? Have you considered this option, that option? Have you considered this platform or what it could be useful for? When I spend so much time doing that research, it's not just me dicking around on Twitter or on the internet as a matter of fact, it's literally me learning the pain points of people and giving them that, doing it in their faces in real time so that when they react to that, I'll capture that as content and then...
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Feature that as a writing as an audio as a video and so on and so forth. That's something that anyone can do
19:03
And John John, you're welcome to chime in anytime you'd like as well, man. Definitely ask anything or comment on anything.
19:14
Yeah, hey, how you guys doing? How you doing with? Chillin', chillin'. IPCG. Yeah, so I guess I could just do like a little report on the, like just some little one-offs, like monetizing one-offs. Like I've been doing these sculptures and finally I got someone who's been following me and we talk on spaces.
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she like wanted to buy this Canada goose that I made. So, well, it was like in process and I was posting it. And so then I was like, that became my priority to finish that one. And then not only she bought it or she was like, we were like communicating on the shipping so I could calculate the shipping and then give her like a price. But within that time, she like signed up on my Patreon on like the most basic one. So that was kind of like a good win.
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Um, so then that made me like, make the price a little like friendlier, you know? And so now I kind of have this through that, I kind of have this idea of set up where like, I haven't done it yet, but I'm going to put a store up and then maybe put like a discount price for anyone that signs up on Patreon or something like that. Just make it like a thing. Um, and like these sculptures are enjoyment thing.
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And like I was doing, I've been doing freelance, basically independent animation, basically my whole life and doing my own stuff when I can, and then doing like contract work. And as the sort of the open up, you know, in...
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There's no restrictions. That makes people not seek digital animation content for music videos as much. They want live action and real performance stuff. And plus, AIs coming in. So there's sort of a real dip in the work in that field, especially after all the writer strikes, actor strikes. I just know a lot of my students, they don't even have any opportunities yet.
21:32
It's kind of like a little bit of a trying to figure out what's going on. Um, but like you were saying on spaces, like I don't host spaces, but sometimes I'm like asked to come and talk on a subject and then I won't say who, but like they're, they do, they run spaces that go off and then this person also like was checking out my patron and signed up, I was like, Oh, so now I'm always going to the spaces, like, you know, I'm just like.
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It's like, you know, I'm going to come and help and whatever. But I don't have the bandwidth to like run spaces, even though I'm trying to like see maybe I should try. And then as far as like another little opportunity coming to me is like, I'm sort of sliding into like concept designs that can get built and someone.
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Like it's basically going to be an NDA thing, so I can't actually say too much, so I won't say more.
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concept art that we're gonna do for stuff that we're inventing. So that's where some of my art might go right now. But that's another one-off. And I've been just trying to figure out how to get more of my bigger projects off the ground while paying for life and all that stuff. Which it was going well. And then stuff happens. Everything's kind of up in the air.
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Just wanted to throw that in there.
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Yeah, that was all great information and it gave me some time to think of some questions for whiz Um, so with that being said whiz a lot of times when it comes to this, it seems like your very first client You know your very first monetization opportunity is the most difficult Because you know getting from zero to one seems like it's a lot more work from getting from one to two And so forth, you know, you have big name players like mr beast and gary v talking about nobody
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would watch their content for years until it caught on. Can you tell us the story about your first client and kind of give you an idea of the struggle and how you overcame it? Yeah, so the struggle for me, funny enough, it's an ongoing struggle in the sense that this is still something I'm learning about in real time and none of my...
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plays were perfect, you know, it's the way I think about it. It's like a football game, right? It's so far, I've got some touchdowns here and there, but every so often I'll fuck up and fumble or I'll get sacked. I can't believe I'm actually using sports analogy. I'm not a sports person at all, but I know a lot about it by virtue of having friends who know a lot about it. But yeah, so to be honest,
24:34
I definitely think of it as like, okay, there are instances where I could more so rely on doing more so a run strategy, you know, still go riffing off of the football analogy here. Or I could do like a layup or pass where I'm more so trying to offload some of what I'm doing so that someone else helps me secure the outcome I'm trying to get. And to be honest, what I realized, especially early on, is that
25:03
Putting myself out there worked, but what really helped was encouraging people to share my stuff in a way where I would reach the kind of audience I would aim to reach, especially people who have a bigger platform than me. Social audio, I think, enables a reach that people don't think about, where specifically once people get comfortable enough to follow you, interact with you on spaces...
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What that means is you've properly introduced yourself. You've done the handshake, if you want to call it that, the virtual handshake, from which you can actually go from there and follow them on their other platforms and kind of show them support over there or chat with them over there. And when you drop something, you can kind of nudge them and say, hey, I just made this and it pertains to your topic of interest. Would you mind sharing that? Or you just simply post it and tag them in there.
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You'd be surprised, man, seven times out of ten. I've got to repost that way. And I've got an influx of new people not necessarily following my stuff, but even in the context of me getting quote unquote exposure, right, you know, the dirty word that everyone likes to hate on, one of the pieces of writing that I've published, quite literally as we speak, is on its way to getting...
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50,000 likes and Here's here's the kicker it got there because I made it on someone else's post basically, they made a viral Instagram real that's a critique of you know the attention economy and how people get sucked up on their phones and I thought hey like this would be relevant to just you know, add a code in there
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So I said that your attention is a laser and you can either harness it to burn something or you can harness it to carve a path and move forward. And I guess the quote really landed on these people's heads that now they're lacking my stuff en masse. And this is where the comment about the fumble came in. I wished that I could have just suddenly plugged that...
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By the way, if you like that, I have a podcast where I talk about that topic so that now 40,000 people would basically be aware that, whoa, I'm not just a dope writer, I'm also a podcaster and if they want to see more of these thoughts, you know, they could learn more. I didn't do that, unfortunately. I didn't have that hindsight. But it's very much a real time process of learning to learn, quite literally learning to learn, first of all. And then learning how to harness...
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opportunities anytime they come your way so that it doesn't matter if it's on Instagram, on Twitter, on Spaces. Basically no matter where you put, what circumstances you're in, you dropped in and you're like cool, all right, like it's action time, it's game time, quarterback is ready, we're about to make that pass and get that touchdown. So you've done a great job so far. So in your own tweet, you said ask me anything and these are the pills you gave us. What I did.
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where to find leads and the power of research. Why I feel like you've done an excellent job covering what I did, but let's talk about number two here. Where to find leads, where are you at with that? And how can you help us? Yeah, so oddly enough, man, I always tell that to people. I encourage people to quite literally be modular in the way they use the internet. And what I mean by that, for whatever reason, people have this maxi mentality of like,
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Once the thing that they do works, they only use that thing. So that if they only do spaces, and they get, you know, attention that way, then they only do spaces. I do not, man. I never felt that pressure. I can go back on Instagram. I can go on Reddit. I can go on Tumblr. I can go on YouTube. The internet is a big place. And again, it's all about traffic, right? And it's also about membership. If you really think about it,
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$5,000 a month, what does that add up to? That's basically, I guess that would be the place where I would get y'all a behind the scenes look on what I do and how I do it. I have what's called a Top Mate website. And what Top Mate does as a service is essentially it packages your skills as services so that you can offer them to a potential interested client.
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so that if you were to be someone who was looking for a particular consulting on a particular topic from me, you could do that. And as a matter of fact, it happened recently. And going back to what I was saying earlier in terms of letting people know about my track record, I wrote an article about it. It's literally one of my most recent ones where it talks about how an account...
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about a name of alignment, AI reached out to me asking me, hey, you seem to know a lot about AI and how did these tools apply to the, you know, creative community and I would like to talk to you. And how do I do that? And I just sent them my top eight website and I said, hey, this website includes all the services I offer. You can pick whichever one you think the most suitable. And by the way, that website included...
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the podcast guest section, where technically speaking, if they wanted to, they could have secured a booking with me for free by coming on my podcast. The trade-off would be that now they would not be in control in terms of asking me questions, you know. I would be the one in control. So that's kind of like that weird push and pull that I kind of put people in, in this position where when those leads do come my way, then...
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Do they wanna pay for my time or do they wanna use that time to be on my podcast and then maybe hopefully learn something along the way. You never really know how it's gonna go. I've had podcasts before that ran for four hours and none of that talked about anything technical whatsoever because that was not really the agenda. Some others were that much shorter and yet they were like jam packed with basically a lot of technical shit. Like the one I've had with the...
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co-founder of Ethereum. I've had him on my podcast and we talked about a lot of technical shit in terms of decentralized training of blockchain good models and how that will impact the blockchain ecosystem. It was a very interesting episode by the way, definitely check that one out. But all of this to say that getting leads man, especially your first leads, understand that it's all gonna come down to familiarity and
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Having people knowing you, quite literally. It's if people know you already for a thing and you have the proven record to show that you know the thing, then execute. Reach out to these people consistently in the sense of, hey, what are you currently working on? Or what post, I saw your post recently, could you tell me more about it? Anything that starts a conversation that gets you further acquainted with that person's pain point.
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and how to get there to solve it. That's definitely one of the best ways to go. And I see that John John got a hand up, so I'll pass it off to them.
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Yeah, cuz you you're both talking about you're talking about leads and Consulting so had like like I guess personally with leads I I find that The way that it works for me is that there's just works that I've made so I guess like for my particular field is like
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You gotta just make a bunch of work on its own that you think is good, that hopefully other people will think is good, and then they just find it over the years. Because I find it like stuff from way back that you're not even thinking about comes back into the pipeline of your emails or whatever, where someone's trying to connect on this style that you made like way back, and then you kind of line it up.
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So right now there's someone that's kind of, they were hitting me up back when work was, when I was too busy and I had people doing some of that work for me, like a rep type of agency. And then the people that I was working with at that rep agency, they kind of left their agency and went, you know, I'm still in contact, but it doesn't seem the same anymore. So for that type of stuff where it was like.
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The negotiations was kind of handled. But prior to being with that rep agency, I was doing it myself also, so I know how to do it. But right now this person that's coming back is lead based on this project that they have. It seems like after I asked them, like, what is your budget? Like I'm very straight up in the beginning of the communication, like it's all good. I wanna work with you, whatever, but what is the budget? What is the timeline? When is it?
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do basically.
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Sometimes they can be asking for my personal, the styles I make, or sometimes they're asking for styles that they already have in mind and they want me to just make it. So like, I can't get the info, they're gonna want to go on a call. And so I was just gonna put this out to you guys, cause it feels like a bit almost like consulting. Like if the person doesn't answer straight up, like what I kind of.
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and I listed what I needed, the information, and they wanna get on a call, it feels like sometimes they're trying to actually get me to answer those questions, and then I feel like that's like, I'm being a consultant and I kinda don't, I actually am bad at charging for that stuff, you know? Like, I'm more of like, I'm ready to go and produce if you know what you wanna do, and we do it, and it's like done, and it's good, you know?
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was like, if you're kind of like not sure and you need to investigate how this stuff is made and now I give you that information because I think we're gonna work together and then you go off because you just wanted the information. I wanna make sure I know how to answer them in such a way that it's not like aggressive or like we're gonna get on the call but I have to like keep the certain boundaries in terms of like not me doing the work for them on that level.
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if you know what I mean. No, I very much see what you mean. It's, I don't know if there's a term for it, but picking your brain, that's something I hear a lot in these spaces, or really in general, to be honest. You're running into somebody that in some way, should perform, might need your expertise. For a like here, it could be audio engineering, it could be animation, it could be blockchain, it could be AI, it's always something that someone's, you know for a fact, cares to learn about.
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and they will ask you for your time to learn about it. So now at that point, it's gonna come to your own discretion. And that's where the idea, why I'm challenging this notion that you don't need to have 10k followers to be able to monetize and charge for your time. Someone asking to pick your brain, that's literally them providing you with an opportunity to do so. If you do choose to go that route, because again, information, not only the
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with even the agent of information, but information is not a new currency, right? It used to be that, hey, I thought that attention was the currency. No, no, no, what's happening under the layers is that the reason why people have attention on things is because they have an information they're trying to access. And once you give them a pipeline to provide that information, that's when stuff really gets going. So for me,
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The Top Mate website I talked about earlier effectively serves as a gateway where you can see testimonies, you can see past sessions I've hosted, you can also see the price points of each of the individual services or you can just go in my regular podcast booking section where it says it's zero dollars and you can hop on and...
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If you're trying to grill me that way, grill me that way. But me being who I am, you guys know by now, that's basically unstoppable force meaning like an immovable object. I'm that kind of person who it doesn't matter what you try. You're not gonna just be able to pick my brain like that. Because I know how to, I know people. I know how to navigate people.
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I also know how to easily figure out what's worth my time or not. It's a shame that unfortunately a lot of people in the space kind of fall for basic shit to be honest. Especially when I think of the state of the space right now, as a solo creator, what really disappoints me is that four years later since the blockchain hype caught on, the shield spaces are still going on and people are unironically doing them. They're going there.
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waiting for in some cases four plus hours and I'm like bro you could have put those that's those same four hours to use in such a better more productive way but they're not doing so because they don't know you know when you don't know what you don't know you are you at a loss here and that's why I said that information is the new currency information once you're equipped with it and you know how to use it and you know how to execute that's when stuff is really gonna start rolling in terms of
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and like that 5000 number you know it's not unrealistic because one of my specific slots I have on my top mate site specifically says that hey as a solo creator that have learned how to effectively create you know writings audio content and video content and has successfully reached a hundred thousand listeners on my podcast
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using my hosting platform, Substack, I will give you my insights for about two hours and learn from me and my mistakes and that package it's $250 if I recall correctly. And if someone were to buy that package 20 times, you do the math man, 20 people really, like you mean to tell me that in the sea of like what's out there across these platforms, Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, you name it.
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like 20 people is unreachable, I don't think that's true. Because I'm a living example of it. And I'm actually currently halfway through right now. I'm currently on number 10. So something tells me that by the end of this month, I'm gonna be at 20. So, you know, same old, same old, man. I see that we have some fucks coming in, so you're welcome to kind of tap in and, you know, jump in any time. This is...
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intended to be an open forum, not one of those show spaces or, you know, lecture spaces. And I'm a creator, I'm a solo creator, I do a lot of stuff. I love the idea of researching and learning and whatever empowers me empowers you, so come on by and learn along, man. And also, full disclaimer, I'm not gonna be one of those places that's gonna be running, you know, for...
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multi-hours, because again, to go back to my initial point, and my critique of spaces, especially from back then and today, is that they, for whatever reason, the value of the space comes down to the, how long it runs or the audience that's there, it's not the case, man. I've had spaces that literally had 2000 listeners, and these are great, don't get me wrong, you know, like it was cool to chit chat, you know.
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riff back and forth and it's actually one of my podcast episodes referred to if you go look on my medium page in that article portal that says every podcast hosted in 2023 it should be the one titled Robert Scoble and Robert Scoble as in S-C-O-B-L-E that one yeah that was the space I had like one of my biggest reach to date right and I think
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time span of about two and a half hours ish we cycled through at least as I recall like a Few dozen speakers so that one that one was really intense but that space never really got me anywhere in the sense that Even I had even though I had a lot of people show up None of them that I can recall subscribe to my sub stack that day and definitely not none of them that I recall
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kept on supporting my content since. And that's fine, you know? I'm not dogging on it, I'm not critiquing it. I'm just showing you that people are easily wooed by this idea of getting people attending their spaces. What they're not realizing is that people attend a space because they're here to extract something and some way, shape, or form. That's the real honest truth. It's all gonna come down to how do you package that in a way so that...
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You can at least get on the opportunity to be able to have someone follow up with you. And for me, that's definitely the process of doing that code lead I talk about. Where I'll give you something, but not everything. In the classic quote of Tai Long from Kung Fu Panda, you know, like, Shifu taught you well, but didn't teach you everything. So um...
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That's kind of the approach I adopt in terms of what I do as a solo creator. Anyone got any questions so far?
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Yeah, actually, I was going to go right down the list. So I think you did a great job of covering the first two pills. But there's one last pill there. And that's the power of research. And that can be viewed a different way. Is it the research that you do, you know, for your, your clients, you know, once you get the leads that way you guys can create a more, more synergy based relationship? Or is it all the research that you do within your own industry? So you actually
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get the leads or is a little bit of both or is there anything I'm missing? So tell us how research has played an impact on your career with. Yeah, research is my most effective super weapon, man. I cannot stress this enough. Without the power of research, I would not know where to go, what to do, who to find, you know, that stuff. And at the base of it, let's talk about writing because I think that's the one that a lot of people miss. As some of you might know.
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You know, the internet is a really big place and I'd wager that a large majority of the internet is made of text, you know, in some way, shape or form. It could be articles, it could be your comments, it could be, you know, infographics. Text content basically rules the internet. Now, the idea to be able to parse through that content, that's when your powers as a solo creator starts to unravel.
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If you're able to parse through text quickly, then effectively you're kind of halfway there, right, in terms of research because all it is I'm doing is parsing through information that's worth taking note of and what's not and Discording it accordingly so that if I'm looking into finance related topics, then yeah, like I'm gonna make it very clear that
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I'm looking about info pertaining to a specific sector of finance because finance is a very vast and very broad topic. So typically, if I want to learn about finance, I'll kind of start in reverse. I will actually look at known figures in the finance space. It could be, say, Warren Buffett or it could be Elon Musk and basically people who kind
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what they say would have some credibility. And then from there, I don't look at what they've published or what people publish about them. I'll sort of follow a track record of what people are saying about these people, average people, right? And kind of go from there. So Twitter definitely is the place that needs the most powerful to harness that. But the principle applies basically everywhere else. You'll search the keyword Elon Musk and you kind of look at
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what people are saying about him and as a matter of fact, I'll do it right now. If I go on the search bar and I search Elon Musk, what do we get? We get his account of course and apparently he's currently trending. So I'll tap on that and let's see what is currently going on. So in the top section, when you go over there, two hours ago someone posted, despite Elon Musk being 52 years of age,
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He still works 16 hour days, 7 days a week and goes to multiple stressful meetings constantly. Here are the reasons why he works so hard. So not really pertinent to what I'm looking for. So let's keep scrolling. An actual post from Elon Musk himself just says, and it was posted 30 minutes ago. It says Starship flight 3 preparing for launch. Again, not really pertinent to what I'm looking for. So let's keep scrolling.
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And now I see something that says, do you agree with this statement by me? Yes or no? And the statement says, 44 billion was not the cost of Twitter. It was the cost of restoring free speech. See, now that stands out to me, and that's interesting for two reasons. Well, it talks about finance and the idea that why would someone put that much money to buy Twitter? Like, why is that? Why would you do that? Like, what's the incentive here? And I look at the comments to see what people are saying.
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to see who is replying, what is their bio. I see some startup folks replying to that tweet. I also see some, oh, that one's interesting. This user called DonaCatPlant1, their bio says that they have a degree in Florida, biology, chemistry, management, interesting. I've never heard of any of these fields before, but assuming that this person had the information I was looking for, I could, you know.
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cannot do that same code lead approach and say, hey, I saw a reply to a tweet that I was interested in and I would like to touch base with you. That's basically it, man. And you can apply that same concept basically everywhere else, even YouTube, believe it or not. It's all a matter of treating the internet like an actual place. And what I mean by that, if the internet was a maze, right, then...
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websites like Twitter and Facebook and Instagram and YouTube would be like the parks, you know, where you kind of go and hang out. And for me, even though I hang out in these parks, I make it very specific and clear that I'm here to either provide something or obtain something. And there's nothing wrong with that, to be clear, you know what I'm saying? Like when you're clear on your goals, that's quite literally you.
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um sticking true to your systems so that when the time comes for you to execute you know how to do that and you know how quickly to do that so that for me specifically when i hang out in the twitter park when i'm looking for something that could be pertinent to my interest um i could just find a space safe for example which again the way i have my twitter set up right now it shows me in real time the people i'm following
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As soon as they jump on the space as a speaker, it literally shows that to me. So that's the other underrated superpower of Twitter that people don't think about. In terms of me being able to effectively stay on top of things that I would otherwise have to be spending a cumbersome amount of time to figure out what's going on. And the goal here is not to know everything or to know what everyone is doing at any given time.
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It's again about parsing the information so that if something pertinent to what you're currently doing shows up on your feed, you can then click on that, investigate it, and follow up. And more importantly, bookmark it. And that's where the idea of having systems comes in. So that for me, I've designed my entire approach in ensuring that natively within the stuff I use, in the browsers I use,
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It's all bookmark integrated in all sync across my devices so that if I found something that would be staying out I could bookmark it right then and there not on the actual website itself But on the actual browser so that later on if I need to do a further investigation I can then go back on that same bookmark folder and then open that up That's what a lot of people I think don't realize about the power of what's currently available
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Forget large language models and what they currently enable. Even doing something as simple as bookmarking things, over time you'll basically put together a library of sorts where you have access to portals that no one else has access to. And you can search that portal in real time as well and figure out, okay, I saw that this person made a tweet about this particular topic. Let me check back on that tweet, you know? How many more likes does it got?
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how many people have replied. What do the quote tweets look like? Which that's the last point I'm gonna touch upon. To quote tweets on Twitter, it's a very powerful tool if you know how to use it. If you see on your feed the one that says the for you page, I don't know what your feed currently looks like. I'm hoping to God it's not an ocean of, hey, buy this coin now.
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That would be a shame and a disappointment. Thank God my feed is not like that because I've made sure to curate my shit properly. But on my feed, there's a lot of viral tweets all the time, every time. And a lot of them pertain to my interest. So if I see a tweet that particularly stands out to me, especially on their like counts, then I'll click on it, and then I'll click on the quotes section.
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and then I'll scroll through and see what people are quoting about it to see who is quoting those tweets more importantly and to also see how recently they've quoted said tweet so that if the tweet was quoted about 10 minutes ago and so on and so forth I can do that and as a matter of fact um... currently I just saw a tweet from this guy which some of you may know
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Mainstream media is dying and no one is trying to save them. Meta is refusing to pay news organizations, stating it will not enter into new commercial deals for traditional news content. See, that's pertinent to me right there. And I saw that and I literally, as we speak, just bookmarked it in my browser so that if I need to go back and look at what's currently going on, who's replying to it.
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or what the general sentiment is around that tweet. I'll investigate further and maybe make a full-blown article about it if I feel like it or make it a topic for a space. There's so many ways you can go about that to harness the power of research. I think a lot of people think that research means you have to sit down and obsessively hunt down things and go down a rabbit hole. Again, it is not the case. What you're doing is that you're figuring out what...
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the best aligns with my mission statement and how quickly do I execute so I can get results. That's really what it is.
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And we also have a few new people coming in and we're about to run at just about the top of the hour, just about. And this is an Ask Me Anything space, you know, ask me about my journey as a solo creator, as a writer, podcaster, researcher, you know, power user, even you could say. Ask any questions you'd like. I'm gonna be here for another 15 or so minutes. So...
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Make of that what you will. Also check out the podcast I've hosted for over a year now. Which by the way fun fact, Whispill's anniversary was last month, first year anniversary. And in that time span I've gone on to publish over 60 articles and over 500 hours of stuff which is crazy to think about. But I'm just getting started. And uh.
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Some familiar folks in here, Denzy is here, Go Chris is here, CG Prod is here, Go Bovie is here, so hopefully you guys are learning something. And uh, case in point, I'm about to um, I'm about to like uh, put my money where my mouth is and quite literally use this space as like a thumbnail for the article that this uh, space will be based upon. Um, so thanks for that. So
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Don't be surprised if you end up tagging something when I publish it. But otherwise, yeah man, John John IP if you have any thoughts, comments, other questions, you're welcome to chat.
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No, I'm just looking forward to my tag, but I'll let John John go.
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Yeah, same. No, this is perfect time, like, for me to cap it because I'm just like energized.
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I'm just gonna do like follow-ups and all that and Yeah, so I mean I I think like everything that you put out there in terms of like the research stuff Like how you talking about checking the quotes? I? Didn't know how to do that. So I'm gonna like try that But yeah, so I picked up some stuff Thanks, dude. Yeah and to be clear in the quotes, by the way, this is not something I actively use in the sense that
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It's my main thing. It's just one of the many things I use. To be honest, believe it or not, a lot of my leads comes from my newsletters. Because what I figured out along the way was that some people quite literally make it their job to curate things about a particular topic that either A, I don't know much about, or B, I do know about, but couldn't be bothered to investigate further, and come to find out there's always gonna be a guy.
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It's like the rule 34, you know, like if you can think of it, there's porn of it. Well, let's call that rule, rule 1420. The rule that if someone out there cares about a topic, then you can be damn sure that they make content about it some way, somehow. It could be writing, it could be videos, it could be TikTok, it could be whatever, spaces for all I care. Someone out there is making content about something they care about. Now it's a matter of...
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tapping into that source so that if you care to tune in about finance that day then you can do that. If you care to more so tune in about AI news that day you can also do that. So for me, newsletters is definitely the best way to go because the way I have my inbox set up currently, all the inbound emails I get or is all stuff I have interested in. It's literally all things that...
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I very much could benefit from in terms of a news wise, opportunity wise, learning wise, and I can just like kind of follow up and like I mentioned before, you know, if something stands down to me, then I can go back and bookmark it. I can go back and further investigate it, or I can just delete it and keep it pushing, you know. It's all about interest based exploration and figuring out what works and what doesn't.
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And some new folks are coming in as well. You guys are coming in at the last stretch of the space, but fear not, this is the Ask Me Anything space, which means it's an open forum. So while you're here, you can definitely hop on chat, ask me anything creator related, what you really did, AI related, basically anything that covers my journey as a solo creator, where I've successfully figured out to not only...
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distribute, you know, the content I create, you know, as a writer, as a podcaster, but also have effectively figured out how to monetize that content even as a creator that's quote-unquote small or indie and what-have-you. None of this is rocket science, at least not to me. I feel like if I can do it, anyone can. Like I'm generally not doing anything groundbreaking here. All I'm doing is just I'm very aggressive about how organized I am.
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how efficient my systems are, and more importantly, how important and critical following up on things is. This is why I schedule all of my, or mostly all of my spaces, so that if it's on the record, what it means is, now you basically making an agreement that, hey, you have to show up at that day, at that time. And of course things happen, you know? Accidents happen, people get sick, I get that, but.
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outside of those factors, if it's not on my booking calendar, you know, it's not real to me, you know, so that's why I've been able to be so consistent with my podcast. Every episode I've hosted, you know, like we're on my calendar and I made it a point to show up, talk to these people, learn about what they do, who they are and so on and so forth and yep, it definitely was a very interesting learning experience. And also...
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Fun fact about Spaces too, I think that one really might be beneficial for a lot of y'all. This platform called Zealous that I used to use, I don't use it anymore, personally, because I kinda, at this point, I'm so good at what I do, I kinda dwarf the need to use it. And full disclosure, I'm not sponsored by Zealous, although I might plan to be at some point, especially as I scale my endeavours as a creator.
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Zellis is a platform that I feel people don't realize how powerful it is once you know how to use it properly. So Zellis, what is it? Zellis is a platform where once you sign into it, it allows you to in real time track the spaces you've been in as a host, as a co-host, as a speaker, and it downloads them for you. Now, why does that matter? Well, it matters because
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If you're someone who like me you struggle to create content quote-unquote, which what it really means is You don't like doing scripted content and it's perfect for you You can literally, you know host a space or co-host a space and do whatever and from there you can you know fetch a transcript of said space so that When comes the time for you to publish content about what you what you care about or what you do then you can do that by
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You know, leveraging the power of large language models, you know, the big spooky boogie man that's gonna steal everybody's job. No, I'm, you know, it's hard to exist. Yeah, it's just like, Zellis is a very interesting platform, man. If you're someone starting out and you don't know how to kind of like get the ball rolling, literally spend 10, 15, 20 minutes of your day, you know, like use Zellis to turn whatever you.
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creating in real time on spaces into something you can then capture as content, as lead, as evidence of your track record, regardless of your size. So that once you have a hosting platform, it could be whatever platform you use, like it could be Medium, Substack, Tumblr, whatever, for all I care. All I need you to do is to have a hosting platform in mind so that you can capture the content from...
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And from there, you can actually figure out, okay, do I need to create a video piece that day based on my past face? I can do that. I can, you know, go back and screen record, you know, some of that and add it to the, to the, to a B-roll footage of some kind, which leads me to my last tip of the day, actually.
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So there's this application I got an email for because I'm you know subscribed to their newsletter. It's called NVIDIA AI So what the fuck is that and what is it for? Similarly to Zellis app that helps you capture your content in real time on Twitter spaces or Really any kind of audio in general for the record. It's not just limited to Twitter spaces, but yeah, man
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NVIDIA AI is another tool that really stood out to me in terms of how efficient it was at doing what it says it does which in this case, it's an app, it's both a website and an app that allows you to fetch the b-roll with prompts, you know, you can go on there and say hey Stitch me together a b-roll footage of a finance person, you know doing you know
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intense thinking about like how to build their company and it's going to find you the appropriate clips of what it is you're looking for and About a few minutes and once you're ready to go we can download that Put that on your phone and edit that and stitched out along with the audio from the space that you posted and boom here You go, that's your content right there. It's now gonna come down to you know, you're dispatching that content and distributing it
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For me personally, as I've stated before, I never really made it to the point to build my catalog with content on my social media fronts. I never saw it as necessary because so much of what I do is built on the backend so that when time comes for me to showcase what I'm capable of or what I've done, I can just refer people to these websites. But otherwise though, my Medium page kind of shows a practical example of how you could leverage such a thing.
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so that if you're on TikTok, for example, you could, if you wanted to take a video from TikTok that you've made with that same process that I just explained to you, and then from there, you could effectively create an embedded video on your landing page or medium, and then that video auto plays as soon as someone taps on it. Or rather,
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The Medium page specifically, the way it works, or at least on mobile, you'll see that you can not only click on different articles and all that stuff, but it also automatically fetches links that are embedded into it for you. And I don't know, man, Medium, it's just so convenient across the board. It's basically the next best thing in terms of getting people to at a glance, look at your stuff.
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so that you don't overwhelm them with bullshit stuff, bullshit clicks, and they get what they need to get, and then once they get it, they can exit out. You know what I'm saying? So a lot of that stuff, I feel like it's really underutilized, and fun fact about Medium specifically, their parent company is Microsoft, and Microsoft has an incentive to ensure that...
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whatever you post on medium actually ranks high SEO wise, but SEO is a whole separate canon worm I'm not gonna get into right now. If you guys care to talk about it some more though, let me know in the group chat. And if you're not in the group chat already, send me a DM about it and I'll add you. Yeah, anyone who cares to talk about, you know, SEO.
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how to optimize, you know, lending pages and all that stuff. That's definitely one of my specialties, my many, many specialties. Let me know in the good chat, you know, do you care to talk about that? Do you not? Like, it's all up to you, man. Because at the end of the day, I follow those leads, right? If it leads, it leads, in the sense that if it's worth talking about, and if it's actually productive of my time.
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And if it actually showcases to other people that I have value to offer, then congratulations, you're fair game. That's always been my approach and it's not going to change anytime soon. And as a matter of fact, some of you in this space have made articles about already, including GoBovie. GoBovie is an AI artist who has done quite a bit in the AI space and that's actually going to be a dope segue to kind of showcase in real time what I mean.
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For those listening in the podcast after the fact, if you Google Wispel, W-H-I-Z-P-I-L-L, and insert the name Gobovian there, which is G-O-B-O-V-I, you will see on Google that the article about them shows up, literally. And it's going to be the medium page. And that's my point, right? I don't need to be able to harness social media to be visible in that way.
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All I need to do is to ensure that what I have to showcase to people, it's easy to find, it's easy to search for, and more importantly, has a strong brand attached to it so that doesn't matter if they come across it on Twitter, Instagram, what have you. It's the same consistent branding across the board so that when it comes time for them to find it and listen to it or read it, they can do that. And um...
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I actually just tagged Gubovie in there, that article I just talked about, because I feel like it's gonna be a pretty interesting case study for this, I care to look into it. But yeah, man, this is one of the many, many, many tools I use to be able to be efficient with not only my time, but also spend that time to build a library and catalog of things that I can tap in and access in real time.
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without necessarily exiting the app, you know? That's what Medium serves for me right now, mostly as a tool. So I hope you learned something new today. And if you have not learned something new, I'm hoping it consolidated what you already knew and urged you to execute. Don't forget that you live in the age of information and orchestration and that people that are in these spaces...
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or using you to engagement farm, I'm not one of those people. If you care to come to my space, what that means is that I generally aim to make the most out of your time and direct you to places or sources that could be the most helpful and beneficial for you because in some way, shape or form, we're all creators, man. I don't care what it is you create, you're trying to create for something. So it's only a matter of how you build your systems around that so that you can ensure that
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you get the outcome you're looking for. So the next space I'm gonna be hosting, which hopefully is gonna be a few days from now, it's gonna touch upon some more of the nitty-gritty of what I've done as a solo creator. More so touching upon you know the kind of tools I use and how I use them. I think that's gonna be an interesting kind of topic to cover. Because again, believe it or not, a lot of the stuff I'm using.
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It's off either my phone or basic websites on my computer. I'm not using some fancy $10,000 computer, PC master race rig to do all that shit. It's just basic stuff. That's really useful, really practical and easy to produce relatively once you get familiar with the pipeline of the process of how to get there. So that's the top of the hour for me.
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Go Bovi go Chris and you're on and another Chris as well in the chat Chris LaMana And I don't know these are these Solana people. Yeah, they are Solana people. They look like Solana people in the chat Yeah, it's interesting and I always have the Solana Solana guy showing up in my spaces I'm hoping they enjoy
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IPNR, do you have any closing thoughts? Yes, I do. So I was really interested in talking about that you do SEO proposals and so forth. And that actually, that dovetails with the revenue model that I've been working on for years, close to a decade. In fact, I did two test markets with just one out of the four verticals, and it did $6 million over a decade time. So I definitely know there's product to market fit.
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So what it is is just the bare bones is it's free IP referral service. Now, a lot of people is like, well, why do you want to do it for free? What it is, it just gives you a first conversation advantage. A lot of people, they don't want to talk to a particular attorney. They want to get the baseline. And then my expertise as somebody studying to be a paralegal is just to go over procedure. Now the reason why you do this though is there's a whole referral tree that basically
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comes from this particular conversation. Like people who want patents, they tend to wanna be referred to people who make prototypes, you know, and do maybe computer animation. People that want trademark services, they're either a startup business and they're looking for SEO because they don't even have their website out yet, or they're a business that's doing well that they've kind of been operating without trademark.
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And the fact that they're doing a trademark means that they're seeing that their business has long-term viability and they're looking to expand their reach. And again, these are the perfect clientele to have SEO conversations about because at the same time they're thinking of expanding their business. I don't know who thinks of doing it without having a digital marketing campaign going along with it. So I will know in early April.
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if I'm able to maybe get some funding but if I do I definitely plan on reaching out to you in the DMs because my whole system is based on people who are going to create leads for the very services that you provide. Yeah that makes perfect sense and for those again that are here listening after the fact that are interested to book me for things especially since a lot of what I do is very much schedule day at a time. I have a website for that.
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You can reach out to me directly to do so and I'll send you the link for that or you could Head on over to let me fetch the link real quick It's gonna be in this DM that I sent this guy there go alignment So it's going to be Frag one over here and over there and over that one there you go and
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I got it. So it's topmate.io slash wispil. So easy and simple, right? It's T-O-P-M-A-T-E dot I-O slash W-H-I-Z-P-I-L-L. So that you get on there, I was gonna lend you to, you know, my lending page, you know, show you my testimonies, show you the packages I have and all the other, you know, usual stuff.
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If you want to book something with me, you can go there on that portal and book that. Or you can just hit me up in private and ask me about, you know, my availability. Cause this month particularly, it's going to be an intense month for me, man. I've had, I've had a lot of stuff in the pipeline ready to go. Um, and I'm just getting started. Like, um, you will not believe what I have in the chamber, man. Um, so I hope you enjoyed and, uh, thanks, Hippie for dropping by. Thanks.
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Bobo V, Go Chris, Yohan, Wiz, wait what? Okay, this one actually took me out for a loop man. It's Wiz which is ITZZZWIZ Why do I have a copycat? There can only be one Wiz on the mountain man. Like this is not fair. What the fuck? Yeah, like you cannot have two tigers on the mountain, you know, like the classic Chinese quote, but yeah, man
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Dope having you in the chat for this early start to the day. I will catch you on the next one. And yeah, if you're not in the group chat already, definitely hit me up about that and I'll add you. And yeah, keep on being wizards. You're a wizard, Harry. And on that note, I'm going to leave you with this clip from one of my favorite YouTube.
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excerpt. I think it's gonna give you a lot of insights in terms of how I personally learn to do things and how I figured out how to basically make Demosha to my tongue. So this is gonna be from Lex Ridman, you know, classic Lex Ridman and He talks to a lot of people for context that for those that don't know him because I know like some of you already know But you know, not everyone knows everything so it's not assuming here
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Yeah, he speaks with a lot of folks folks that are well known in the tech industry folks that are scientists Folks that are Very well versed in finance. So basically he's good He's kind of the go-to guy for you know, the top performers of the world in a lot of ways And one of his most recent episodes actually featured none other than Jeff Bezos and you know
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Jeff Bezos, I think he needs no introduction. He's the founder of Amazon and founder of many other things apparently. And he talks a lot about his process of not only how he does things, but how he learns. And the particular clip in question, it's titled Jeff Bezos on how to think on the Lex Reedman podcast clips channel. And...
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Once this thing is out of the way, I'm gonna be able to play it for you, which is any second now. Five, four, three, two, one. Classic YouTube man. All right. On that note, I will close up with this. Word to study your own brain, introspect. How do you think? What's your thinking process like? We'll talk about the writing process of putting it down on paper, which is quite rigorous and famous.
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Amazon but how do you when you sit down maybe alone maybe with others and thinking through this high-dimensional space and looking for creative solutions a creative paths forward is there something you could say about that process it's such a good question and I honestly don't know how it works I did I would try to explain it I know it involves lots of wandering yeah so I you know when I sit down to work on a problem I
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no I don't know where I'm going. So to go in a straight line, to be efficient, efficiency and invention are sort of at odds because invention, real invention, not incremental improvement. Incremental improvement is so important in every endeavor and everything you do. You have to work hard on also just making things a little bit better. But I'm talking about real invention, real lateral thinking that requires wandering.
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You have to give yourself permission to wander. I think a lot of people They feel like wandering is Inefficient and you know like When when I sit down at a meeting I don't know how long the meaning is gonna take if we're trying to solve a problem because if I did Then I'd already I know there's some kind of straight line that we're drawing to the solution
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The reality is we may have to wander for a long time. And I do like group invention. I think there's really nothing more fun than sitting at a whiteboard with a group of smart people and spitballing and coming up with new ideas and objections to those ideas and then solutions to the objections and going back and forth. So like, you know, sometimes you wake up with an idea in the middle of the night.
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and sometimes you sit down with a group of people and go back and forth and both things are really pleasurable. And when you wander, I think one key thing is to notice a good idea and to maybe to notice the kernel of a good idea, maybe pull at that string. Because I don't think good ideas come fully formed. A hundred percent right. In fact...
01:21:27
When I come up with what I think is a good idea, and it survives kind of the first level of scrutiny that I do in my own head, and I'm ready to tell somebody else about the idea, I will often say, look, it is going to be really easy for you to find objections to this idea. But work with me. There's something there. There's something there, and that is intuition. Because it's really easy to kill new ideas in the beginning, because they do have so many
01:21:57
There's so many easy objections to them. So you need to kind of forewarn people and say, look, I know it's gonna take a lot of work to get this to a fully formed idea. Let's get started on that. It'll be fun. So you've got that ability to say cosine in you somewhere after all. Maybe not on math. In a different domain. There are a thousand ways to be smart, by the way. And that is a really, like, when I go around, you know,
01:22:24
I meet people I'm always looking for the way that they're smart and you find it is that's one of the things that makes the world So interesting and fun is that it is not it's not like IQ is a single Dimension there are people who are smart in such unique ways Yeah, you just gave me a good response is when somebody calls me an idiot on the internet
01:22:54
They might tell you yeah, but there are a million ways to be done. Yeah. I feel like that's a Mark Twinkle. All right. On that note, have a good one folks and catch you on the next one. Peace out.
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